Thursday, September 09, 2010

Comment Published at NY Times online

The link to the article is here:
Court Dismisses a Case Asserting Torture by C.I.A.

My comment is published here!

I think torture will never end and the populace can't possibly know what is going on because we are not permitted to. Europe is a little better than we are in providing information but in general information is controlled. Every news report will have several things; worldwide, state and local by county in addition to a few human interest tidbits. Remember we had a president who was going senile and knew nothing about anything - for god's sake he was an actor! And Ollie North took the fall! And we were told zip. Till today we still don't know who killed Kennedy and I suspect the CIA was involved. Hell how many of you are so naive you believe one silly guy who was killed did it all on his own.
Of course it's absurd for people to burn the Koran because it makes no sense to call this a protest; it's another hatemonger act. To destroy religious symbolism for the sake of protest. Kind of reminds me of the 60's when women burned their bras and men burned their draft cards but what makes this different is that it's outsiders who are being destructive and hurtful. If for example, Muslims want to protest something in their religion or culture that's a different thing.
Protesting a religious book because terrorists who happen to be Muslim hit the towers doesn't make sense. It would make more sense to distribute these books as a gift to a Muslim organization.
Actually we killed more of our own on 9/11 by forcing them to stay in a building where they'd be trapped and die and this was done supposedly with the good thoughts about preventing stampede. I know one woman who told me about how she escaped and sneaked out.
The world is a crazy place and hate will make it more crazy.


  1. From: Andrew Christ
    Nice comment! I tried to post a comment at Joy Leftow's Poetry Blog but it wouldn't post. Here's what I wanted to post there:
    I like your rant, Joy. I think it's lucid and thoughtful. Burning the Koran is stupid; it's like adding gasoline to a fire in the hope that the fire will go out. The Onion had a nice satirical piece the other day about one American man's attitude toward Islam:,17990/

  2. German Jewish poet Heinrich Heine wrote in 1820-1821 "Where they burn books, they will also burn people." (more than 100 years before the Nazis)

    Whether you add fire to the fuel or fuel to the fire, the result will be the same.

    Pastor Terry Jones is beholding a speck in another religion way of seeing things, and behold there is a LOG in his own view.

    "Woe unto the world because of offences! For it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" Matthew 18:7

    The only things holy about war/wars are the people who are killed in them.

    Pastor Terry Jones, you are acting like a perfect example of the problem(s) in the world, which cause so much violence, resentment and hatred that leadeth to war(s).

    Neither the Qur'an nor Christ encourages war, only religion, cults and sects. Only weak Gods need mere mortals to fight their battles. Oh ye of little faith!

    To Pastor Terry Jones I include an extract from one of my poems below:

    "Oh glory be! why do they fight?
    what do they hope to win?
    What worth! those spoils they value more,
    than their own next of kin?

    You cannot preach peace, at the point of a gun!
    when will this nonsense cease?
    It is better to be an innocent victim of war,
    than a villain of the peace.

    Peace comes not without silence!
    but which of them must come first?
    Will we keep on blowing each other up,
    'til the bubble of the Earth is burst?

    Who would champion the cause of justice,
    wielding a blade of bludgeoned steel?
    or direct a volley of cannon-fire,
    against another's feel?

    Who would orchestrate an army,
    against all life itself?
    until the only battle left to fight,
    is only with themself!

    God created a perfect environment,
    in which these hideous monsters dwell;
    they can either choose to walk God's Way,
    or else shall go to hell.

    Is it for us to cause an effect?
    or merely effect the cause?
    for they that rise above selfishness,
    are duly worth an applause.

    How on Earth can one profit,
    even if the whole world ye do gain;
    if by your leave you've no one to give it to,
    shall not thy efforts have been in vain?"

    An extract from "Oh God What Can I Do?" by C.J. Petersen.